How I realized I was over Star Wars completely

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Rollo Tomassi wrote:Shame on you for reading it. Or watching it. (see, I don't even know. Thats how done with SW I am)
it might be a series of interpretive finger puppet skits with some gymnastic ribbon twirling thrown in for artsy flare. i'm not sure.
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Rollo Tomassi wrote:Shame on you for reading it. Or watching it. (see, I don't even know. Thats how done with SW I am)
it might be a series of interpretive finger puppet skits with some gymnastic ribbon twirling thrown in for artsy flare. i'm not sure.

That could be. Because that's what Maul's Star Wars Unleashed staction figure was, right? It definitely had the gymnastic ribbon twirling as a theme.
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It's funny to look at fan sites (the other site included) and read all the justifications for why this works.
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anarky wrote:It's funny to look at fan sites (the other site included) and read all the justifications for why this works.
Its funny that SW is cribbing one of the oldest plot devices from fucking All My Children and Guiding Light, and fanboy twats are jizzing for it like its the iphone 7.
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For me, at least, it's not justifying (well, maybe to a point). I'm mostly just speculating, since I'm not sure how anyone could get cut in half and fall down that pit. So I'm just wondering what they're going to do with it in the future (as he doesn't seem to be in any upcoming episodes, at least from what we've seen so far).
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Senor JabbaJohnL wrote:For me, at least, it's not justifying (well, maybe to a point). I'm mostly just speculating, since I'm not sure how anyone could get cut in half and fall down that pit. So I'm just wondering what they're going to do with it in the future (as he doesn't seem to be in any upcoming episodes, at least from what we've seen so far).
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I'm guessing you meant to say how could anyone come back after getting cut in half and falling down a pit.
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Rollo Tomassi wrote:
Senor JabbaJohnL wrote:For me, at least, it's not justifying (well, maybe to a point). I'm mostly just speculating, since I'm not sure how anyone could get cut in half and fall down that pit. So I'm just wondering what they're going to do with it in the future (as he doesn't seem to be in any upcoming episodes, at least from what we've seen so far).
With a lightsaber.


I'm guessing you meant to say how could anyone come back after getting cut in half and falling down a pit.
You are correct, sir.
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Despite arriving on Pandora and meeting a chick that stepped out of a Final Fantasy game, tonight's episode was far better than the last three.

Qui-Gon was cool, albeit brief.
I really hope Ahsoka takes her own advice.

Oh, and Anakin now has his scar.
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Anakin has had his scar since the very beginning of the series, so welcome to 2008. :P

Tonight's episode was weird as hell. My TV (or maybe Cartoon Network) was having weird issues so the motion looked off and distracted me quite a lot. But I'm really looking forward to how this plays out over the next two episodes.
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Anakin having the scar at this point is actually a more serious continuity fart than anything with Maul.

The first time we see it is in the micro-series, when he visits Padme and she sees it.

The comics later went back and elaborated. As he left Padme's apartment the previous time he'd been on Coruscant, Asajj spied him. She confronted him with the fact that he was married, and they had a duel that dwarfed the one on Yavin IV. It ended with him knocking her off a building, and she was presumed dead until she resurfaced in Obsession, maybe a week or two before ROTS.

They can't retcon this to work aside from just saying Anakin got the scar elsewhere. Asajj clearly doesn't know he's married, especially not to Padme.
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Senor JabbaJohnL wrote:Anakin has had his scar since the very beginning of the series, so welcome to 2008. :P
I'll be damned, I guess you're right. Apparently, I just never noticed it before.

Although I remember hearing somewhere that there was an issue about the scar early on. Maybe it was the fact that he has it from the beginning of the series, and not the way the micro-series portrayed it.
Anyway, I must have remembered it wrong, and thought he didn't have it until now, because I never noticed it.

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Filoni and crew wanted to make the Anakin model look recognizably like Anakin, so they gave him the scar right off the bat. He's expressed regret about doing that, though, losing the chance to tell the story of how he got it (though that would have opened up another can of worms regarding him getting it in the comics). As for me, I always felt it was a little silly that the scar was supposed to be from a lightsaber, since it doesn't look very big and we've never seen a lightsaber cause such little damage before (even Dooku barely grazing Obi-Wan's arm and leg in AOTC seemed to leave pretty big marks in comparison). George always says it's from Anakin slipping in the bathtub so I'm going with that. :P
anarky wrote:Anakin having the scar at this point is actually a more serious continuity fart than anything with Maul.

The first time we see it is in the micro-series, when he visits Padme and she sees it.

The comics later went back and elaborated. As he left Padme's apartment the previous time he'd been on Coruscant, Asajj spied him. She confronted him with the fact that he was married, and they had a duel that dwarfed the one on Yavin IV. It ended with him knocking her off a building, and she was presumed dead until she resurfaced in Obsession, maybe a week or two before ROTS.

They can't retcon this to work aside from just saying Anakin got the scar elsewhere. Asajj clearly doesn't know he's married, especially not to Padme.
Almost, but not quite. Anakin first got his scar in Republic #71: The Dreadnaughts of Rendili, Part 3, which was released November 24, 2004. The micro-series episode where he gets his scar was in Season Three (the Series 2 DVD), which was season with five 12-minute episodes. In Chapter 22 (March 22, 2005), we see Anakin with long hair and armor and Obi-Wan with short hair and armor - both of which are very similar to their initial 2008 The Clone Wars appearances, but in the micro-series they have capes; I've always thought that, if they're supposed to be in the same canon, then the new series would fit during this montage and don't really see a reason why it can't (even though they use the ROTS Jedi Starfighters here but use a different one entirely in the new series).

When they retcon everything together, I'm going to bet that they just move the dates given in the old comics up several months (so things like Jabiim will happen shortly after AOTC instead of 15 months later, and so on). For one thing, it's going to make more sense for Anakin to impatiently want to be a Master in ROTS if he's been a Knight for nearly three years, and not just for six months, as the comics say.

I don't remember the significance of Ventress knowing Anakin's married, but in this series, it's not like she's going around taunting him for being single, so I don't know what you mean.


On this episode, though - the name of the "planet" they were on is Mortis, which means death. I wonder if this was supposed to be the Netherworld of the Force, or something similar? The family was said to be anchorites, leaving the temple to take up study elsewhere, so I don't know if that was possible. Having it be a supernatural, non-physical place makes more sense . . . I kind of want them to keep it somewhat ambiguous but that's a possibility.
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proof that I am still NOT over Star Wars:

May 2007, History Channel aired those 2 specials on SW for the 30th anniversary, "Tech" and "The Legacy Revealed." I never watched them.

But I did tape them, so today I finally watched them while transferring to DVD...and I loved it !!! Tech was decent but Legacy was very enjoyable, breaking down the films into the classic archetypes, literary connections, and all that shit.

Clone Wars: I still haven't watched season 3 to date so the jury is out for me there. I'll have to catch up on DVD this Fall.
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Sleazer wrote:But I did tape them, so today I finally watched them while transferring to DVD...and I loved it !!! Tech was decent but Legacy was very enjoyable, breaking down the films into the classic archetypes, literary connections, and all that shit.
They were both quite good, especially The Legacy Revealed.

Would you possibly be open to sharing said DVDs?
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Sure I would, no problem...send me your address and I'll get them out to you.

But I gotta warn you, the quality is shit. I mean, the audio is fine (I suppose) but the video quality is from a years-old VHS tape with grain to it. I recorded them onto separate DVDs to mitigate the loss of quality as much as possible and I think they're watchable but still poor quality. Oh and I didn't bother to edit out the commercials, so you'll need to suffer through a few Geico Cavemen commercials (even while Fast Forwarding, they are still annoying).

I agree with you, Legacy was the better of the two. At least the audio is listenable; a good friend of mine has young kids and they are crazy about SW, so he's excited to show this to them because it's a good background on where a lot of these ideas came from (dare I say educational?). I suppose that's the main thing, since if they want to watch the movies in high quality, they have the films on DVD.

Tech is also a cool show in that educational regard, by explaining the science fact vs. fiction with regard to SW. I'm glad the show was done with a good perspective: if it was a bunch of people scoffing at how most of the stuff in SW isn't realistic, that would be missing the point...I think the show was done from a healthy point of view.
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